Have you had chicken pox?
Submitted by art on Tue, 2007-04-24 10:49.
There is some evidence that chicken pox may be related to MS. Let's see how it is with MSNews readers.
I have MS and never had chicken pox
8% (62 votes)
I have MS and had chicken pox before diagnosis
71% (564 votes)
I have MS and had chicken pox after diagnosis
1% (11 votes)
I have MS and had chicken pox before and after diagnosis
2% (14 votes)
I do not have MS and never had chicken pox
5% (40 votes)
I do not have MS and had chicken pox
13% (100 votes)
Total votes: 791


Chicken pox
I also had the shingles when I was pregnant. As you probably know this is a recurrance of the chicken pox virus in one's system. It has occurred to me that there may be a connection with MS.
I had shingles too, when I
I had shingles too, when I was young, has anyone else?
I also had shingles when I
I also had shingles when I was 25 (now 26). I wonder if there is a relationship
Chicken pox and MS
I had a major case of chicken pox when I was pregnant. I never had them as a child even though I was exposed to them many times. My five year old child got the shingles instead of chicken pox because of it.
did I or didn't I?
When I was a child and my best friend came down with chickenpox, I didn't. I spent time with another friend instead, from a different school where they didn't have an outbreak. The incubation period later, this friend came down with chickenpox. I still didn't. Over the years, two of my three kids have had chickenpox, and I've spent time with plenty of other children with it, and I've still not apparently had it. I suspect I had a mild case on first exposure - no spots - and gained immunity, but am at a loss as to how to answer this poll!
Chicken pox
Interesting that a form of herpes (varicella zoster) might be implicated in development of MS, and/or MS may contribute to the disease development later, or both. Especially since over 90% of the world population (yes . . . of the WHOLE world) carries the herpes virus.
herpes
I had outbreak of herpes simplex then numbness of my feet, which led to my initial diagnosis. I also have a cochlear implant due to deafness which prevented having an mri. I had spinal tap as part of my diagnostic workup, but no viral or other protein was present at that time. I do feel that the herpetic outbreak (caused by extreme sunburn)precipitated that attack. Neurologist also said that the long standing hearing deficit was caused by MS
I got a form of herpes when
I got a form of herpes when I was pregnant in 1980 or 1981. Of course I've had it ever since and never had it before I was pregnant.
Chicken pox, etc.
Just a silly memory...When we were kids, it was inevitable that we would would get chicken pox, mumps and measles at some point. There was a family of 7 kids living next door and 3 of us. Whenever one of the kids from either family got chicken pox, measles or mumps, our Moms would have the rest of the kids who had not had these illnesses go to the respective "sick house" and get exposed so that we'd "get it over with". Oh, what joy!
Chicken Pox
When I had chicken pox as a child (8-9 yrs old) my mother also made my younger brother & older sister hang out with me confined indoors so that they could be exposed & get it over with. Neither one of them contracted it. Wierd immune systems?? I was the only child of three to ever have chicken pox; my older sister was the only one to have mumps; and my younger brother was the only one to have measles. So far I am the only one with MS although they still have time.
Chicken Pox
I was diagnosed with my MS during my son's bout with Chicken Pox. They treated me like I had some rare form of the Varicella virus because my mom told them I never got any pox as a kid...just a fever. This news sent the Dr's scrambing with tests. I was in the hospital being scared to death because this "virus" needed to be treated asap or I could die. Ha..seven hours later when the Neuro said he suspecte MS...I was actually relieved. Turns out that I was immune to Chicken Pox (they do have a test for this if you are wondering)
cool down
I have been swimming at an indoor pool near my home and the current water temperature is 77 degrees. I have found that I feel better and energized all day with no need for a nap. Does anyone else notice that staying cooler has its benefits?
Keeping cool is beneficial
Keeping cool is beneficial to many people with MS. You can even get cooling vests to wear. Heat is the enemy of demyelinated nerves.
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Art Mellor, Accelerated Cure Project for MS, art-msnews -at- acceleratedcure.com
keeping cool
I am really thinking about buying a coolshirt for my MS. Have you Art or anyone you know have one of these vests? I'm looking at the T-Shirt not the poncho.
Keeping cool is beneficial
I am sorry, but I must disagree witht this statement. I most definitely have MS. I have optic neuritis to the point that I virtually lost my vision during one exacerbation for a period of six weeks. I also have muscle spams, fatigue and my skin "burns" constantly. However, one thing I DO NOT have is sensitivity to heat. In fact, I love the heat...the hotter the better. I am probably moving to Florida soon because I cannot take the cold winters here any more. (I currently live in Maryland.) The cold puts me in bed and renders me completely immobile. However, put me in a 100+ degree hot tub and I am in Heaven and I could stay there for an hour without any negative effects. If anything, I feel 200% BETTER after soaking up the heat from air or water. I love HOT showers and hot weather. Humidity is no problem either. I cannot even think about swimming if the temperature of the water is under 100 degrees because I just shiver the whole time...and it does not matter if the air is 100 degrees either, I still feel cold if the water is less than my body temperature. I must have the water at least at 100 degrees. So does any one else have this seemingly same strange sensitivity to cold??? PattyJean
Staying cool helps
I do agree that my body feels the difference when we have warm days. I have realized that being a sun lover outside in high heat causes tiredness, loose legs but eliminates cold fingers.
keeping cool
Although I prefer warm weather, I know that when I get hot from being out in the sun too long, or during those hot California days when not using the AC, my fatigue goes into high gear and I'm exhausted just climbing the stairs in our 2-story house.
In my area of northern California, the utility company gives a rate discount to those who require temperature control (like AC on hot days). Perhaps other places in the country do likewise. I needed to get certification from my Doctor that I was indeed diagnosed with MS and required AC. Once the paperwork was filed, and since MS is considered "permanent", I'm asked every 2 years to self-certify that I still live here, and the discount continues.
cool down
I get into an in door pool twice a week and exercise. I make sure that I STAY COOLED DOWN because if I get too hot all of my old MS symptoms come back. So I always do everything that I can do all the time to try and stay as cool as possible.
chickenpox survey
Wouldn't it be helpful to get the ages of the respondents? The chicken pox vaccine is relatively recent, so someone who was born or a youngster prior to the vaccine would be very likely to have had chicken pox. (That would be almost the whole population). So if the poll respondents are all older the answers would be significantly skewed. I'm extremely interested in whether or not there is a link with the chicken pox virus because I've likely had some unusual zoster issues along with my ms.
Chicken pox and MS
I did have chicken pox as a baby (I have MS now). I also had shingles as a teenager.
Glandular Fever was my pre-MS virus, despite having the others
The only infection I blame for my M.S. is Glandular Fever, it was the only anomaly in my spate of ordinary peer shared illnesses. The research supports a major role for Epstein Barr as the common link for all M.S. cases. We M.Sers all test seropositive for this virus as a recent study revealed (I'll have to look it up and get back to you with the reference).
Why
The Government of the United States of America spends billions of dollars every year on healthcare for illegal aliens, I live in Texas and I see it every day; it is disgraceful that anyone that can get to the US gets a free house, free car, spending money, health care and free food for themselves and all of their children regardless of not being citizens. Those of us with chronic illnesses have to fight the government for assistance of any type and are routinely turned down for any help, and we have been life long tax paying citizens, as have our ancestors. What is wrong with our Legislators? What is wrong with our Government?
I have to agree with you
I have to agree with you 100%. Thank you for coming forward with these issues.
I was a single mother of 2 working 3 jobs just to get by. I was not even able to get help with Childcare do to the fact that I was NOT on any kind of government aid!
Hello! help those who help them selfs first!
Then my M/S got to the point where I was not able to work it was like I was some kind of a undesirabe monster asking to get S/S disability. I get my Government check.......Wow 569.00 per month,So yes there is something very wrong with our system...Thank God I have a great husband now other wise I'd be living off my kids or on the street! Micah in Calif.
Yes, our government has MANY
Yes, our government has MANY problems, healthcare being a big one. Spreading your hatred of "non" Americans is a major problem. Intolerence of others is the downfall of America. I live in Texas as well, in a hispanic neighborhood. I know many immigrants, some illegal some legal citizens. NONE of them have free cars, houses, or spending money from the government. Focus on your M.S. and healthcare problems, it disturbs me that you would use this page for your own brown hatetred.
Yes, our government has MANY
You are way off base with your accusations. I agree with the problems and definitely NOT your attitude. I have many friends who have come to this country LEGALLY and they are disgusted with those in their own race who are here ILLEGALLY. The LEGALS came here and worked and became citizens by jumping through all of the government hoops, yet others now can come and yes, get ALL of those benefits for FREE! My friends who are here legally are outraged at a government that would change its tune over time. I believe that all of the illegals should be shipped back to what ever country from which they came. If people like you would STOP supporting the illegals, we would not have this problem! Better yet, why not create a law whereby all of the bleeding hearts, like you, who want the illegals to stay, have to pay for their support out of your own pocket; and anyone who wants them to leave, or become citizens the right way, does not have to pay a dime! Why should HONEST Americans have to be burdened with illegals who just want something for nothing. I agree it is NOT FAIR and people like you make the problem worse!!! Put your money where your mouth is! PattyJean
OK - Let's stop this thread
In the spirit of keeping the discussions on the topic of MS, let's ignore additional inflammatory comments on either side of this political argument and let this thread die. Thanks.
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Art Mellor, Accelerated Cure Project for MS, art-msnews -at- acceleratedcure.com
Chicken pox and MS
Born 1948. I have had chickenpox, glandular fever and 2 bouts of shingles prior to my diagnosis of ppms in 2006. Co-incidence...I don't think so.
Caz, UK
Chicken Pox, Herpes viruses, and MS
I got Chicken Pox (along with my sister and brothers) when I was 12 yrs old. I do now have RRMS, diagnosed the first time at age 33 after having serious continual headaches for almost a year prior to my first neurological visit in 2001. I understand that Epstein Barr, Shingles, and Herpes Simplex I and II are all different strains of the Herpes virus (for whatever that's worth to other readers); there are probably others. Chicken Pox as a form of the Herpes Virus would be new news to me.
chicken pox and severe headaches
My daughter had a severe case of chicken pox five years ago when she was 25. Now - since about 3 months after the chicken pox - she suffers from atypical severe debilitating headaches 24/7. There is no let up. She has been to numerous doctors who tell her there is no connection to chicken pox, but I think there is. She has tested positive for lupus and lyme but the tests have not been conclusive. We are at our wits end. I think the chicken pox virus has done considerable damage but don't know where to turn. Any advice?
I recommend seeing a
I recommend seeing a top-notch neurologist. Actually see 2 or more.
I'm not a doc, but if she tested positive for lyme, why not do the antibiotic treatment? While it may not be pleasant, it isn't dangerous and you could then rule out lyme if it didn't help.
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Art Mellor, Accelerated Cure Project for MS, art-msnews -at- acceleratedcure.com
If only the doc's would
If only the doc's would order the antibiotic which they won't! I feel as if she needs a spinal tap, I am convinced this chicken pox virus has affected her drastically. Also, very weird - she has no immunity in her system against chicken pox. She had to be tested before working in a children's hospital a couple of months ago. She is a clinical psychologist. I thought having chicken pox gives a natural immunity? She also has no immunity to any of the other childhood diseases for which she was immunized. Does that mean anything at all to anyone?
pneumonia
I had chicken pox as a child but I also had pneumonia when I was in my thirties. I developed primary progressive MSA in my mid forties. I wonder if there is a connection there.
I had Chicken pox at age 12,
I had Chicken pox at age 12, never had pneumonia. Developed PPMS at age 45. I am from Ann Arbor, Mich area which may be the connection, but who knows...
Chicken Pox/Shingles
I had chicken pox at 9, and was diagnosed at 33. A few months ago at 45 I had on outbreak of trigeminal nerve shingles. The onset of my first MS symptoms began after walking on wet Scotchgard on my newly-cleaned carpet. My feet went numb and by the next morning I was numb up to my waist. Coincidence?
chicken pox and trigeminal nerve shingles
can you elaborate on the symptoms experienced with trigeminal nerve shingles?
Trigeminal Shingles
I had chicken pox as a young child. I am 50 now and have progressive MS. About 6 monthes ago I had Trigeminal Shingles on my face. It is an inflamation of the nerve endings, it appears related to lesion location and can be triggered by stress. Seeing my neuro and other specialists I was informed this is common in MS people and has the tendancy to return. It was treated with topical medication and prednisone in my case.
Chicken Pox
I have five brothers and sisters and we all had chicken pox as a child, but mine broke out on the inside. The doctor had to give me a shot to make them break out on the outside. Not sure what was in the shot...lol. I was diagnosed at age 35 with RR/MS in 1991. No one else in my family has MS. It sure would be nice if they could figure this mess out and finally DO SOMETHING to cure it.
Chickenpox and MS
I was diagnosed with MS in 1986 - had chickenpox as a child, and am now doctoring for shingles (if you haven't had your shingles vaccine, get it now!!!). Both of our children had chickenpox when they were young and the elder also had shingles when she was about 30, and has 1-2 bouts since. My husband doesn't know if he ever had chickenpox, and there is no one around to check with to find out. Can't talk him into the shingles vaccine yet, but I haven't given up! CRM
chicken pox and shingles
re the previous comment about shingles, I had chicken pox as a child and had shingles as a teen. I didn't realize there might be a connection. Regardless, I do not have MS (well, at least as of age 53).
chicken pox
I had a VERY severe case of chicken pox when I was 13. It was so severe that even after being out of school for two weeks, when I returned my teachers wanted to send me back home because I looked so bad. I had chicken pox on top of chicken pox. No one, including our family doctor at the time, had ever seen so many and such big pox. My mother is convinced to this day that this is why I have MS.
Just chicken pox?
My first M/S attack came only 2.5 weeks after having a German Measle booster (1989)A anouncement at my daughter perschool said that if any one born between certin years should have a booster shot, it was thought that the injections during that time period were faulty. (I was born in 1958)
After years of on going problems,
It took until 1993 before a doctor told me I had M/S
Just thought I'd pass this info on.
Chicken Pox - Herpes
Hello Art and all concerned,
Having had chicken pox as a kid, and herpes from my college days, I intuitively began to sense, and have concern of getting MS while in my late 30's. At 50 now, although I gratefully have'nt been diagnosed with MS, I periodically get tingling, pins and needles, numbness, and jumping RLS in legs, feet and hands. I've recently connected this with herpes and when I take Valtrex it goes away, very thankfully.
I've also done a lot of metaphysical healing work, specifically for MS with a Lazaris tape titled "Healing the Scars of the Past: Charting a Course for the Future," for which I give credit.
http://shop.lazaris.com/Healing_the_Scars_of_the_Past__P144.cfm
Tape description:
"There is much that hurts us in our lives, but not everything that does damage leaves a scar. But some things do, and the scars leave us with haunting memories and sorrow that eventually lead to the very serious damage of judgments of ourselves and others, a debilitating lack of emotional intensity that robs us of magic, and hidden agendas that wreak havoc with our programming. The scars of the past rob us even of what we have to give, and they offer nothing positive in return. Lazaris offers strong, beautiful techniques to work with and a powerful healing meditation to free us from our haunting. He culminates with a process to chart a loving, spirit-filled course for the future. Between 2-1/2 and 3 hours." Keywords: Scars of the Past, Judgments, Sorrow, Hidden Agendas, Lack of Emotional Intensity
Hope this helps. If anyone wants to contact me regarding this, feel free.
Best regards, Robert
Until the 1980s, kids got
Until the 1980s, kids got chicken pox as almost a rite of passage. For kids in the 50s, it seemed like we all got the big 3: measles, mumps and chicken pox. The big 4, if you count rubella. Wonder if a random sample would give the same results? 80% yes, 20% no, or thereabouts.
anivirals and MS
Has anybody else been on an antiviral?I got shingles in 1986 and have been taking antivirals since,otherwise I was miserable. they have enabled me to live a productive life . Then in 2001 I saw halos around lights became ataxic and the stinging and tingling began.I had chicken pox as a kid. MRI's are always borderline and every time a little worse. I want to know if anyone else has been on antivirals as long as I have and could being on antivirals make my MRI's different than others. I have a Doctor who considers me Secondary Progressive. I use a wheelchair because of overwhelming exhaustion and ataxia. I was tried on Methotrexate and my liver shut off. My memory and word searching are bad. My doctor wants me to try Tysabri or one of the newer drugs. I want to know more. Would an IV Antiviral help? anything new
MS, Chicken Pox, Mononucleosis, Herpes
Chicken pox at age 5 (horribly bad - still have the scars); mono at age 13 (for an entire year!) which I think that I have never gotten over; herpes in my 20s and now MS. Still think that this is environmental, but once you have one disease are you predestined for the worst of the worst?????????
Chicken Pox
I can not remember ever having chicken pox, so I guess it was very mild. I did have shingles as an adult which means I must have had chicken pox. Peggy
chickenpox, herpes, shingles, temperature and exercise
Had chickenpox age 4, herpes age 30, shingles age 45, progresive MS age 50, 7 years ago. Find change of temperature affects the most have tried a cool vest it worked for a couple of weeks then stopped. I wear a leg brace all the time even in the gym which I use 3 times a week with personal trainer. Find exercise helps the most, have always been very fit. Taking exercise combats fatigue.
Chicken pox
When I was 6 years old, my 8 year old brother and my twin sister and I all had chicken pox at the same time. Additionally, we all had the measles and the mumps at the same time, too. Neither my twin sister or my brother have MS. I've had MS for 7 years and my sibs are unlikely to be diagnosed as they're most likely too old.
Chicken pox twice
I had chicken pox severly as a child.I was therefore surprised to get it again recently. It was not shingles as most would assume. Two months later, a friend, who also had chicken pox as a child,also had chicken pox officially diagnosed by her doctor. I have heard that there is a new variant. I haven't got MS but it concerns me that people are now getting it twice, which was previously unheard of.
chicken pox poll
H-m-m-m. Let's see here. Art just alerted us to a recent study that suggests maybe researchers should take another look at a viral agent as the cuse (or one of the causes) of MS. And chicken pox is caused by a virus. Could the search for a cause be that straightforward? That easy? Would be nice.
Since not everyone who got chicken pox develops MS, there's got to be something alse at work here too, like genetics, or something in the environment. But there are also those who said they never had chicken pox but now have MS. Perhaps they had a mild form and never knew it? I'm not a physician or researcher, just a fellow MS patient, so this is merely a feeble attempt to connect some dots.